After all that was it the green tea?

So after all my research, after all my theories, and after all the many hours I’ve put into understanding what might trigger hot flashes, could it be drinking green tea, for me, was the actual culprit all along?

I have not had a hot flash in five days. That is really big news. I was flashing around up to, I’d say, ten times a day for two months now. Before that I was having quite a few, but the last couple of months they were really frequent.

So what changed? Well, if you keep up with my blog you know I started back on the B vitamins and added back in magnesium. This helped quite a bit at first, but seemed to have little effect in the last month especially. So what was going on other than the hot Miami sun bursting through the day?

I didn’t know either. So one day I sat down and started to really analyze what I was consistently eating. For some reason I focused on green tea. I think I focused on that particular thing for more than one reason. I drink it almost everyday at the same time in the afternoon. I would also have it, many days, in the morning, and during school I’d have a third cup often. So it was a consistent part of my diet. It is also one of the things I did not ever have when I was at my worst with the histamine intolerance, which was also the same period of time I never had hot flashes.

That’s why I came back to it in my head. I know white potatoes cause hot flashes with me, which means foods can definitely be a trigger for me. But green tea? Off I went to do the research to see if it’s even a possibility, and yes it is. Funny enough, it’s one of those things that comes up on the list as either helping to eliminate flashes or helping to trigger them.

It made sense to me that it could be a trigger for me keeping in mind my history of having issues with the other herbs that everyone supposedly could take to minimize histamine intolerance but were triggers for me. I could not drink chamomile or nettle teas without having itchy reactions. And though I’ve tried to reintroduce chia, I still react badly to it. (I’ve recently learned chia is part of the same family as other herbs like basil and sage, which I can use as seasonings but that’s in very small doses.) Anyway, the point is I have a history of problems with herbs and now, maybe teas. They are all plants after all.

I can drink white tea without an issue. I could drink white tea when I itched too. So there seems to be a correlation between what my body can handle related to the histamine intolerance, even when I am not actively itching. There are consistencies there.

Based on all this thinking, I stopped drinking green tea last Monday and by Wednesday I realized the hot flashes stopped. And when I say stopped, I mean I have not had one at all. Even when the house gets warm in the mid day Miami heat.

Now let me just add this last bit of confusion to the whole picture. Monday is also when I started taking Olive Leaf extract again. I had run out of it a couple of months ago and ordered the wrong thing in its place. I guess I was a bit overworked that day and ordered Oregano Oil instead. I tried it anyway but it upset my stomach…too much of an herb maybe…

Olive Leaf is one of those things that worked wonders for my histamine intolerance. I took it religiously. But since the itching has pretty much gone away except for the occasional flare-ups, I stopped taking it and most of the other supplements. I take querecetin for acute reactions only now. I took Olive Leaf on and off for the last eight months or so.

So you can see that the Olive Leaf could technically muddy the waters a bit in determining if it is just the green tea or not. It could be a combination of the two. It could just be the Olive Leaf or just the lack of green tea. I do believe however, based on my past history of taking the Olive leaf and when I’ve had hot flashes in the last year, that it is the green tea.

If I were willingly to sacrifice my body for the good of the cause I could prove it one way or another. I could first stop the Olive Leaf for a week. Then I would drink a cup of green tea a day. Or I could keep the Olive Leaf going and start drinking green tea. But let’s face it, I feel so good right now without having those awful frickn’ flashes that I’m not willing to take the bullet! You’re going to have to analyze your own eating and drinking habits. I’m just here to tell you that if you drink a lot of green tea, you might just be helping to fuel those hot flashes without knowing it.

Also, it might not be the green tea per se but the way your body metabolizes caffeine. So maybe it’s not just green tea but black tea and even chocolate. You might need to investigate all of it. I don’t ever have drink black tea or coffee or eat chocolate anymore. Green tea was the most caffeine I would let myself have. Black tea and chocolate could be bad for histamine intolerance anyway. They are for me.

To conclude, this is my last word on hot flash help today… and I say today because every few weeks I seem to have a new theory…Take the B vitamins. Take vitamin C and magnesium. Try to keep an alkaline body, and don’t overdue on the sugar and simple carbs. Do not eat junk food and minimize any healthy food that causes a reaction. Take Olive Leaf to support your immune system if you want to try it. And give up the green tea.

Maybe it’s all of the above that’s finally worked for me. Maybe this is all one big puzzle that I’ve been putting together over the course of the year and the green tea was the last piece. I’ve said over and over again that it’s never just one thing. But I can tell you this for sure: no more green tea for me!

Let me know down in the comments section what you think. And have a lovely Sunday!


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21 comments on “After all that was it the green tea?
  1. Ann says:

    Hi Dale.
    You seem to have been busy with your Green Tea do you drink it iced or hot?
    On the topic of sugar, had I realized the side affects sugar does to the Collagen in
    our bodies I would not have had so much in my years on this planet. It destroys
    the supportive system that keeps Collagen in our skin and keeps the wrinkles away
    and the sagging chin! Wish I had known this 30 years ago!

  2. Edwina says:

    Hi,just as an aside on your green tea thoughts,recently my daughter have me some whole leaf Chinese green tea to try,I’m a bit of a “funky tea” fan,only for this to bring on an asthma attack. I have followed many of your hints and tips and “manage” my hot “moments quite well now. Vit B,magnesium and using olive oil together with an anti histamine diet have made me feel like the old me again. Intriguing green tea “upset” your system! Mine most sertainly didn’t like it at all!!

  3. sofia says:

    I’m so happy I found this site! I thought I was losing my mind. I’m Canadian but live in Japan and I’m not crazy about the medical system here so I haven’t been to the doctors about any of it. I’ve been doing my own research and my own testing/eliminating to figure out what is going on. So I just want to say thanks for all that you do!!
    I love green tea and living in Japan means it is everywhere! I’m sad to say that I can’t drink it either as it makes me itchy! Matcha will drive me around the bend!!

    Oh and I’m going to look into olive leaf extract-thanks!

    • You’re the second one within minutes saying green tea is not good for them. Wow. You guys are validating what I wrote. I’m so pleased to have put that piece of the puzzle together.

      I’d get home from school and have a cup of green tea and have a huge flash. I thought it was the warm house and hot clothes. So I’d strip off the work clothes and put on shorts and a tee to ready myself for my 4 o’clock hot flash. Now it all makes sense!

      • sofia says:

        I figured out green tea was bad for me long before I discovered the histamine connection. And it tastes sooooo good but I rarely drink it nowadays. I’m still reading through your site so not sure about this but I have found that juicing is helping me a lot. I found in the winter I could handle some fruits that I can’t handle now that it is summer and the heat and humidity is starting up. I guess my bucket runneth over and I have to adjust accordingly! I’m perimenopausal (I’m 43) and I’m pretty sure I haven’t had a hot flash (mom says I would know if I had one lol) so I’m sure hoping that all that I ‘m doing means I will never have one as they sound horrible!
        Oh and I’ve noticed that for me joint pain is part of my issues with histamine and hormones etc. Certain parts of the month my pain is worse. I’m doing a “ginger shot ” ala Jason vale (ginger and apple juice shots) in the mornings and that helps. I’m also taking capsules of turmeric and that helps as well. I’m not sure if you have talked about them on this site or not….sorry if you have and I just haven’t gotten to them yet!

      • I have Jason Vale’s book. Apple and ginger is a super antihistamine and anti inflammatory. What is the shot? An apple and a thumb of ginger?

        I haven’t talked about turmeric yet I don’t think. But I have read a lot about it. You need to take it with black pepper and a teaspoon of olive oil to make it really work. Without the black pepper it doesn’t synthesize the same. And the oil.

        Yeah you’d know if you have a flash, trust me!

  4. sofia says:

    I take bioperine with the turmeric (it is black pepper extract). I use 1 or 1.5 apples and a very large chunk of ginger so in our house it is called the “kapow” shot! And you down it…it can burn a bit but what a great way to start the day and it really helps with joint pain and some other issues. You can make it mild of course but the strong stuff is addicting lol.

  5. Jessy Pickles-Campbell says:

    My problem I’m down all time to clean is a problem it will take me a day to clean my bed room. I could stand the hot flashes is other things I cant stand

  6. Gay Smith says:

    Great info. Is olive leaf a capsule or tea or …? Where do you get it?
    Histamine intolerance is my interest and I’m trying to find a site to reference histamine foods. I have Read all the basic food lists on sites that pop up when you Google histamine intolerance , but I need someplace to turn when checking to see if a “uncommon” food (one not normally listed on the “basic lists”) is high or low histamine.
    Any suggestions are welcomed! Thanks

    • You can find olive leaf as a tincture or as a capsule. I prefer the capsules. I buy the Gaia brand because it seems to be very high quality and it’s vegan. I get it on Amazon because I can find it for half the price of Whole Foods.

      As for the lists, they will only take you so far. If I reacted to a food that wasn’t on a specific list I’d just google that food with the word histamine after it. It’s tricky by that point because you might react to a food that is low histamine. It still should go in your no list until you can re-introduce it no matter what list it’s on. Your body is telling you by that point.

      I could not eat cauliflower and it’s on the low histamine food list. I used to eat it by the head! Now I won’t touch it. I suspect over eating something could increase your sensitivity to it also.

      The food diary is a must by this point. That’s your true guide. Build your own list is what it comes down to because we are all different.

      Hope this helps. Let me know if there is anything else on your mind.


  7. K.K. says:

    Pleased that you have found relief from the hot flashes. That is fantastic. 🙂

    As you point out in this post, and others, there are often multiple triggers, and also changing triggers.

    By the same token, there can also be multiple, and changing, things that help us heal.

    You probably know this, but there is some caffeine in white tea.

    For example, I like the White Peony from Choice Organic Teas.

    It does contain some caffeine, but it does not seem to bother me at all.

    Here is some helpful info:

    (Their organic teas are free of chemicals, and fair trade.

    Each box has a handy little bar graph on it showing the amount of caffeine in the type of tea in the box.)

    Have you looked into what else is in the green tea, besides the caffeine, that might also be a problem?

    Maybe there are chemicals used in different brands, or something inherent in the green tea itself?

    It is an ever-evolving process to decipher, and get in front of what to ingest, what to avoid, etc.

    It can feel like a full-time job, but it does get easier with experience, and it always helps to come here to learn from the experience of others, too. 🙂

    • I actually haven’t delved into what specifically could be in green tea other than caffeine as the culprit. I imagine it might be something to do with the fermentation process now that you bring it up. I do know white tea has some caffeine but it isn’t fermented like other teas. Hmmm…and as I said I could drink the white and it didn’t make me itch but the green did.

      Yeah it’s almost too daunting a puzzle to figure out sometimes. But I’ve been a week hot flash free and that’s like a miracle!

  8. K.K. says:

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    Some people like to add it to food or drink, which is fine as long as the food/drink is not warmer than room temperature.

    Any higher heat negates the effects of the MSM.


    MSM occurs naturally in foods, but too much processing removes it.


    Though I started out on a small dosage to test it, I now can take many tablespoons at a time, and on an empty stomach, without issue. Sometimes I’ve had detox experiences, but they have been mild.

    Like with anything else, everyone reacts differently, so do your own testing and research on how to take it.

    I’m not a doctor, so talk to one if you have any doubts about taking it.


    When I take it on a regular basis, my hair and nails grow like crazy. My skin is improved, and I feel better all over. I also put the powder right on my toothbrush to clean my teeth.

    The list of benefits is very long. These are but a few.


    In my experience, I feel the positive effects from it immediately. When I stop taking it for any reason, I can definitely tell the difference.


    Swanson Vitamins brand sells a good product, free of fillers, and at a reasonable price.


  9. […] I realized the other day, at the end of my last post, After all that was it the green tea my advise to you about getting rid of hot flashes was an identical match to what I’ve been […]

  10. Green Tea gives me migraines. It actually blocks the enzyme called DAO which is needed to break down histamine in the intestines, causing excess histamine in the body. Black tea and Mate’ teas supposedly do this as well. Check out this great article!

  11. Heidi Holland says:

    Hey there, I just stumbled across your site. This is the first page of it that I read since I searched Olive lead and effects on hot flushes. I drink a green tea extract and only yesterday wondered if this might be having an effect. Wow. Have been tracking the flushes (up to 16 per 24 hours last week), so will try one and stop using the other a few weeks apart to see what happens!

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